tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post3002463990996332318..comments2024-03-13T21:26:03.011-07:00Comments on Right on the Left Coast: Views From a Conservative Teacher: Men Are From Mars, Etc.Darrenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15730642770935985796noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-67140799482089147902014-07-14T08:50:45.956-07:002014-07-14T08:50:45.956-07:00Want science? Try this, Professor Hyde:
http://ww...Want science? Try this, Professor Hyde:<br /><br />http://www.amazon.com/dp/0767920104<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-74840973162272828142014-07-13T16:57:18.772-07:002014-07-13T16:57:18.772-07:00And I did ruin that last comment by leaving out th...And I did ruin that last comment by leaving out the second 'not' ... it should be ... not important. We were explicitly trained not to teach any math at all ...regardless of how quick you could be...maxutilshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11294262473781967372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-76861948573231094242014-07-13T09:32:09.632-07:002014-07-13T09:32:09.632-07:00No, it isn't. It was a question about what dat...No, it isn't. It was a question about what data was measured, followed by an opinion about standardized testing. I offered an opinion which I know differs from yours, but I have never found a standardized test which could not be cleverly guessed at. In fact, when I applied for a part time job as an SAT prep tutor, I was told that understanding how to do math was not only important, but led to lower scores. I didn't get the job, because I couldn't separate the teaching from the learning how to guess. You can believe what you want ... but that's how those courses work. Personal experience ... generally leads me to absurd conclusions. And, you didn't answer my question, either. Since the original study separated math and English, and you cited the SAT without differentiation, it was a fair question to ask.maxutilshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11294262473781967372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-33481437520915436722014-07-12T11:24:19.888-07:002014-07-12T11:24:19.888-07:00Your entire comment, especially your last sentence...Your entire comment, especially your last sentence, is absurd.Darrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15730642770935985796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-60603384387317643892014-07-12T04:08:59.120-07:002014-07-12T04:08:59.120-07:00That's a different arena. If you're motiv...That's a different arena. If you're motivated, that's when reality take hold ... but ... did you mean just on Math, or overall. I'll acknowledge it's a better data set, though you didn't cite the numbers ... and did you mean overall, or just on math, or both? And still ... no standardized test, even if incentivized, truly measures understanding.maxutilshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11294262473781967372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-42668687329503313852014-07-12T02:20:20.378-07:002014-07-12T02:20:20.378-07:00Yet guys consistently do better on the SAT. Year ...Yet guys consistently do better on the SAT. Year after year. Statistically significantly so. This jibes with the NAEP data.<br /><br />When the facts contradict your expectations, believe the facts.Darrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15730642770935985796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-56218559919451752482014-07-12T01:25:42.799-07:002014-07-12T01:25:42.799-07:00Darren ... I don't know what computer problem ...Darren ... I don't know what computer problem I'm having with your blogspot ... but my second post was meant to be here. It's sort of relevant where it is, but more so here. Feel free to delete the first. I knew SOMETHING went wrong ... <br /><br />This maybe a partial repost ... I had a computer issue.<br /><br />Anyway ... my first problem is that this study is based on standardized tests where the students have no incentive (at least based on what I read) to perform well, and were based on a sampling of school, rather than all of them. To a statistician, that should be problematic, as you've skewed the data twice ... in undefinable ways. Do girls take more pride in their work than boys, or vice versa? Were these schools a representative sample or all high end or low end.<br /><br />My experience ... having taught English in 7th and 8th grade, is indeed that the girls performed better, on average. But that's debatable, because only a few of my students ever read the books, and their writing was generally horrible ... despite my being the first, apparently, to introduce them to grammar. Teaching math? 9-12? My best students were USUALLY girls, and if I had to rank the top ten, it would normally be a 6-4 split favoring them. Which ... is really close. It certainly challenges the girls can't do math thing. I think the one thing that might play in to that? I think girls in math classes are sometimes intimidated to ask questions, particularly if the teacher is male ... because the stereotype is that they aren't supposed to be good at math...asking a question might confirm it. But ... for whatever reason, most of the questions I get are from the girls ...my thought is that I've created a comfortable environment where I make it clear that I will answer any question until they're done, I won't ridicule for not knowing something they should arguably know, and I won't call on people who don't have their hands up (something I've been criticized by more than one administrator for.) Asking a question ...indicates you sort of got it, but need some clarification ...which actually indicates your better at the subject.maxutilshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11294262473781967372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-13248508806860502352014-07-11T19:07:52.734-07:002014-07-11T19:07:52.734-07:00It's not so much that she wants to prove there...It's not so much that she wants to prove there are no differences but that all differences are accounted for by environment, i.e. society. <br /><br />So little girls don't want to be princesses and ballerinas because of any innate drives but because society's channeled them in that direction and away from repairing motorcycles and chewing tobacco. Similarly, little boys aren't naturally flesh-and-blood incarnations of the Looney Tunes Tasmanian Devil. Society channels little boys in that direction and it only requires a proper upbringing to cause little boys to put away their toy guns and such and I suppose start worrying about global warming.<br /><br />Society can be altered by the application of a sufficient amount of wisdom and insight the good professor has to believe and she, and her like, are possessors of that wisdom and insight. But it's all meaningless if there are innate differences. Differences that aren't amenable to the application of wisdom and insight by the wise and insightful. <br /><br />So the possibility is first dismissed and then those who refuse to discard the possibility of innate differences are attacked. The next best thing to being right is shutting up dissent.allen (in Michigan)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-13182862278442790852014-07-11T12:03:00.234-07:002014-07-11T12:03:00.234-07:00What interest does Dr. Hyde have in proving that t...What interest does Dr. Hyde have in proving that there are no differences? I mean why would you <i>want</i> to prove that? The statistics pertain to the behavior of a group, not any given individual. What policies are being based on this information, and how does Hyde profit from it?PeggyUnoreply@blogger.com