tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post115664894085206052..comments2024-03-13T21:26:03.011-07:00Comments on Right on the Left Coast: Views From a Conservative Teacher: Street Corner Rally in SacramentoDarrenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15730642770935985796noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1157057606708029632006-08-31T13:53:00.000-07:002006-08-31T13:53:00.000-07:00There is no such word as "treasonist." The word is...There is no such word as "treasonist." The word is "traitor." How did you get out of grade school?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1157057539468767712006-08-31T13:52:00.000-07:002006-08-31T13:52:00.000-07:00"So, following that train of thought, there is no ..."So, following that train of thought, there is no war and therefore can be no "sedition"."<BR/><BR/>The courts have consistently and unanimously ruled against that idiotic line of argumentation. There is nothing in the Constitution that requires any kind of official declaration of war from Congress.<BR/><BR/>Free speech does not include sedition or treason.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1156953234137730702006-08-30T08:53:00.000-07:002006-08-30T08:53:00.000-07:00So, Polski3, in your view, there have been no U.S....So, Polski3, in your view, there have been no U.S. wars since WWII? <BR/><BR/>In any case, hard to decare war on non-states, a fact which allows you to continue to live in denial, perhaps even until congress no longer exists or has the ability to officially bless it for you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1156896585722453892006-08-29T17:09:00.000-07:002006-08-29T17:09:00.000-07:00Powerful post.I didn't know things were this bad i...Powerful post.<BR/><BR/>I didn't know things were this bad in Sacramento.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for bringing this to everyone's attention.EdWonkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07487951830278757474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1156805131549180842006-08-28T15:45:00.000-07:002006-08-28T15:45:00.000-07:00I don't consider them treasonist either. If one h...I don't consider them treasonist either. If one has the right to burn an American flag, one should have the right to paint the pictures portrayed here.<BR/><BR/>At the same time, I think the messages reap of ignorance and I'm totally disgusted with them. In the end, they are making a total mockery out of the right to public assembly by their inability to have knowledge of the subjects they are protesting about. The comments about Hezbollah, the Syrian flag, the portrayal of Israeli nazism.......it all makes protesting seem less valid. I mean, come on, Hassan Nasrallah???? Bashar Assad??? Does anyone remember the assassination of Rafik Hariri? What about Nasrallah's praise of suicide bombers against Israel? <BR/><BR/>Idiots.Coach Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16874922605571908582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1156742497759265692006-08-27T22:21:00.000-07:002006-08-27T22:21:00.000-07:00If you consider them treasonists... I'm suprised y...If you consider them treasonists... I'm suprised you learn to type.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1156739161567467352006-08-27T21:26:00.000-07:002006-08-27T21:26:00.000-07:00I remember when my daughter was in high school I w...I remember when my daughter was in high school I was bored so I scanned through a copy of what I thought was an innocuous teen mag-Seventeen. Imagine my surprise when they had an in depth interview with a paid protester. She discussed how to avoid getting handcuffed, how to combat tear gas, how to get away from a police officer, great stuff for young minds. And I guess the most worrisome part was the fact that she was PAID to protest. In short, in most of the protests in large cities there are paid organizers, paid sign painters, paid protesters-some of whom travel just like any other working stiff. I would love to have some sort of FBI style recognition system to scan protests at say the G8 or GreenPeace rallies or Anti-Anwar rallies or alleged "peace" rallies to see how many of these protesters overlap. I know they scour the local campuses for protesters, heck someone tried to get my college kids to come down to Farmers Branch and protest the discussion of enforcing some illegal immigration laws by promising them beer, even though two of them are under age! Wow...so that's how they do it...in the 60's it was LSD and pot, now it's just beer. And probably light beer at that.Ellen Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02845981491726296767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1156711185047557372006-08-27T13:39:00.000-07:002006-08-27T13:39:00.000-07:00IIRC, it is our US Congress that has the constitut...<I>IIRC, it is our US Congress that has the constitutional power to declare that the US is at war. And, IIRC, the last time they did that was in December of 1941.</I><BR/><BR/>Perhaps that was the last time they used the magic words "we declare war" (although what FDR asked in 1941 was a declaration <B>that a state of war exists,</B> which isn't the same thing either) in order to placate the gods of war or whatever, which will not recognize a war unless those magic words are used.<BR/><BR/>The courts, however, have been taking a much more open-minded view.<BR/><BR/>Congress did declare war with the AUMF. Deal with it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1156707332916137942006-08-27T12:35:00.000-07:002006-08-27T12:35:00.000-07:00Sedition....".....when the United States is at war...Sedition....".....when the United States is at war". So, what does this mean? Whose definition of "war". IIRC, it is our US Congress that has the constitutional power to declare that the US is at war. And, IIRC, the last time they did that was in December of 1941.<BR/><BR/> So, following that train of thought, there is no war and therefore can be no "sedition".<BR/><BR/> As a parent, I would object to that "make love, not war" sign. My boys are young enough to NOT see such on a public street. IMO, such a visual in such a location is NOT part of free speech.Dan Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13397636504405471939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1156705840807752612006-08-27T12:10:00.000-07:002006-08-27T12:10:00.000-07:00Perhaps, Bill J, but they're certainly "idiotists"...Perhaps, Bill J, but they're certainly "idiotists".Darrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15730642770935985796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1156699801189893532006-08-27T10:30:00.000-07:002006-08-27T10:30:00.000-07:00I disagree with them, but they're hardly treasonis...I disagree with them, but they're hardly treasonists.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1156699501579458972006-08-27T10:25:00.000-07:002006-08-27T10:25:00.000-07:00Nice work... I was lucky enough to have a friend ...Nice work... I was lucky enough to have a friend do the interviews posted on my site. I don't know if I could have hung out there as long as you did without throwing a punch.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1156696342302951252006-08-27T09:32:00.000-07:002006-08-27T09:32:00.000-07:00Kudos to you Darren for picking up the ball and ru...Kudos to you Darren for picking up the ball and running with it! Next time we need to team up.<BR/><BR/>Hey Anonymous (the one who said "Declaration of Independence, anyone?"), I'll try to ignore the fact that you are equating these people with our founding fathers and I will simply point out to you that the writers of the Declaration of Independence were denouncing and fighting tyranny, not embracing it like these tools at 16th and Broadway. Are you saying that embracing Hezbollah and Hamas is for the betterment of our country? I know of at least 241 dead U.S. Marines who would differ with you... if they weren't dead.W.R. Chandlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05908482384887766964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1156694274003473752006-08-27T08:57:00.000-07:002006-08-27T08:57:00.000-07:00I was looking at the street signs trying to work o...I was looking at the street signs trying to work out where the corner is, and finally recognized "Land Park" on one of the signs. So I guess the original Tower Records <I>is</I> still open on that site. Given the news about the company I'd been wondering.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1156694157070617742006-08-27T08:55:00.000-07:002006-08-27T08:55:00.000-07:00Declaration of Independance, anyone?Some people ne...<I>Declaration of Independance, anyone?</I><BR/><BR/>Some people need to make a Declaration of Intelligence. If they can.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1156691176969982452006-08-27T08:06:00.000-07:002006-08-27T08:06:00.000-07:00And what is it about hippie protest signs and back...And what is it about hippie protest signs and backward 'N's, anyway? Is it supposed to be some kind of protest against literacy, or the imperialist Roman alphabet?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1156690675936102532006-08-27T07:57:00.000-07:002006-08-27T07:57:00.000-07:00Here's a little information for our misinformed le...Here's a little information for our misinformed leftist. First, the law against sedition:<BR/><BR/>18 USC 115 Section 2388:<BR/><BR/> Whoever, when the United States is at war, willfully makes or conveys false reports or false statements with intent to interfere with the operation or success of the military or naval forces of the United States or to promote the success of its enemies; or<BR/><BR/> Whoever, when the United States is at war, willfully causes or attempts to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty, in the military or naval forces of the United States, or willfully obstructs the recruiting or enlistment service of the United States, to the injury of the service or the United States, or attempts to do so—<BR/><BR/> Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.<BR/><BR/>And here is the definition of treason, article III section 3 of the Constitution of the United States:<BR/><BR/>Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.<BR/><BR/>The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.<BR/><BR/>There is nothing in the Declaration of Independence that would imply support for terrorist cheerleading, marxism, or any other type of leftist nonsense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1156686950959645612006-08-27T06:55:00.000-07:002006-08-27T06:55:00.000-07:00Sedition and treason are not "just voicing their o...Sedition and treason are not "just voicing their opinion."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1156680599163841272006-08-27T05:09:00.000-07:002006-08-27T05:09:00.000-07:00I can't believe I'm reading this! Did you ever le...I can't believe I'm reading this! Did you ever learn what happened to so many of the signers of the Declaration of Independence? To juxtapose any thought of those who risked their lives, their forturnes, their sacred honor to lead the fight for independence with this lot of selfish, moronic tyranny-promoters is perhaps the most ignorant thing I've heard for at least . . . well, only about 20 minutes, since I usually have the news on my TV and there is <B>no</B> monopoly on stupidity. <I>Intelligence</I>, the ability to think logically, and the ability to understand the probable outcome of the actions one espouses, now <B>THAT</B> is very rare indeed.<BR/><BR/>I only wish that these people - and those of you who see even the slightest good in them - could actually get what they wished for without the rest of us having to pay as well. In Cambodia, the Khmer Rouge shot anyone seen wearing glasses, because glasses implied education. Do you like going to a church of your choice or even not going at all? Not possible under the tyrannies some of these signs and banners support, where even being the wrong flavor of Muslim can get you and your babies blown to bits with bombs as you leave your worship service.<BR/><BR/>Please, for a change, actually think of the consequences of what you say, rather than just how it makes you feel.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1156664050972085442006-08-27T00:34:00.000-07:002006-08-27T00:34:00.000-07:00Interesting how difference of opinion between you ...Interesting how difference of opinion between you and them makes them treasonists. I see nothing here indicating treason. BTW, sometimes treason is necessary to for the betterment of a country - Declaration of Independance, anyone?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1156660597949615672006-08-26T23:36:00.000-07:002006-08-26T23:36:00.000-07:00I see nothing noble about voicing stupidity.I see nothing noble about voicing stupidity.Darrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15730642770935985796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1156660223601426032006-08-26T23:30:00.000-07:002006-08-26T23:30:00.000-07:00Even if some of them are wrong, at least they're v...Even if some of them are wrong, at least they're voicing their opinion! Power to le people!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1156659070551359452006-08-26T23:11:00.000-07:002006-08-26T23:11:00.000-07:00Admire these treasonists? You have GOT to be kiddi...Admire these treasonists? You have GOT to be kidding. Either that or a you are a fool who does not recognize the cost of freedom. Please get an education. Perhaps try living in another country for a while. Our liberty is unique and special. You will thank Darren for his service to our great nation when you mature and have some perspective. Thank you Darren, so very much. You and other fine people like continue to ensure our saftey. God Bless you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1156658530840100542006-08-26T23:02:00.000-07:002006-08-26T23:02:00.000-07:00Honestly, I saw nothing to admire.Honestly, I saw nothing to admire.Darrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15730642770935985796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1156658412867385322006-08-26T23:00:00.000-07:002006-08-26T23:00:00.000-07:00While some are acting a bit too odd for me, I admi...While some are acting a bit too odd for me, I admire them standing up for that cause. Although a couple are just stupid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com