tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post8233523953693091248..comments2024-03-13T21:26:03.011-07:00Comments on Right on the Left Coast: Views From a Conservative Teacher: Is This Really The Kind Of Society In Which We Want To Live?Darrenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15730642770935985796noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-74091234880130831432014-08-30T07:53:03.306-07:002014-08-30T07:53:03.306-07:00Mark, I've read the bill, and you are correct:...Mark, I've read the bill, and you are correct: however, a school which bases disciplinary action adverse to a student based on false testimony faces civil consequences from the disciplined one ... my point being that it would only take a couple of times before schools began to be more careful.maxutilshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11294262473781967372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-53391289966620560712014-08-29T05:39:35.458-07:002014-08-29T05:39:35.458-07:00You have, and you're right ... my point was me...You have, and you're right ... my point was merely that the accused, were he to be tossed out, (there I go ...assuming the one refusing to consent was the guy) would have legal recourse against the university ...much as the Duke lacrosse players did. Still sucks for him, but if enough lawsuits are filed, the policy will go away. But, it's asinine, as you have posted ... the only way to prove yourself innocent is a signed contract, which I guarantee would kill the mood ... and even then the victim could claim she was either too drunk to understand, or that she had not hired counsel to fully understand the stipulations of the contract ...Nothing has been solved here. Expecting drunk college kids not to have sex is ridiculous from the get-go.maxutilshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11294262473781967372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-71668774050681656652014-08-28T20:13:00.783-07:002014-08-28T20:13:00.783-07:00In *criminal* cases, "beyond a reasonable dou...In *criminal* cases, "beyond a reasonable doubt" would be the standard used. But we're talking about university disciplinary cases, where Dear Leader and his Dept of Education are pushing for the "preponderance of evidence" standard.<br /><br />I have posted on this topic frequently lately. This ground has been covered.Darrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15730642770935985796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-69989836818837074072014-08-28T19:33:37.275-07:002014-08-28T19:33:37.275-07:00What do you mean by 'one class of people' ...What do you mean by 'one class of people' having more rights than another ... I actually no what you mean, but the legislation appears to be gender neutral. <br /><br />I'm not tremendously worried about this, because sexual assult is a criminal matter: you don't get to have 'preonderance of the evidence, you have 'beyond a reasonable doubt..' And, if the defenses is that I was too drunk to know what I was doing, how credible is that testimony, anyway?<br /><br />Lastly, it doesn't solve any freaking problem. If the woman say no, you're done. But if she doesn't, then you still have a he said-shesaid case ...just like we do now.<br /><br />Idiots.maxutilshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11294262473781967372noreply@blogger.com