tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post1460066100306995379..comments2024-03-13T21:26:03.011-07:00Comments on Right on the Left Coast: Views From a Conservative Teacher: Riddle Me This, Socialized Medicine AdvocatesDarrenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15730642770935985796noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-18955989809675390102017-05-20T09:09:23.669-07:002017-05-20T09:09:23.669-07:00Just like car insurance and homeowner's insura...Just like car insurance and homeowner's insurance and food, health insurance *shouldn't* be provided by jobs--and neither should it be provided by government. Government, especially the federal government, exists to secure rights, not to provide goodies. At least, that was the idea....Darrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15730642770935985796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-37515918116152486722017-05-18T21:32:36.512-07:002017-05-18T21:32:36.512-07:00Do you, as a conservative, take the very generous ...Do you, as a conservative, take the very generous health benefits negotiated by the teachers' union for your government job?<br />Benefits that are better than what is offered/promised by the socialized medicine of the Affordable Care Act/ObamaCare?<br />(I'm presuming that the teachers' unions in California are able to negotiate great health benefits like their comrades do out here on the East Coast. I make that presumption based upon the complaints by conservatives about the ever powerful teachers' unions in California. And if I remember correctly, I believe that was a complaint from the Friedrich plaintiffs that the health insurance offered niceties like abortion coverage and contraceptive coverage that offended their religious beliefs.)<br /><br />But I don't see how your logic, and principle, and "economics" are going to have the say in policy.<br />For example, I know a fellow who worked for himself on the renaissance faire circuit. A few years back, his wife got cancer, received treatment, but died. He was left with a $60,000 bill from the health care practitioners in Texas. He was able to negotiate them down to $20,000. So what's the deal here?<br />Connections? Luck of the draw? Knowing the right people? PhillipMarlowenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-68102072922913050052017-05-15T19:59:20.221-07:002017-05-15T19:59:20.221-07:00You suggest that as a conservative I shouldn't...You suggest that as a conservative I shouldn't work for the government. Do you *really* think that's a good argument, one that paints me as a hypocrite? Or are you just throwing crap up on the wall and hoping someone sticks? Perhaps I'm a hypocrite for working for the government as a soldier, too? Come now, you can do better.<br /><br />I get that you're willing to accept what the government can do to keep your wife alive--and that's *exactly* why policy should be created by disinterested (not *un*interested) people who can look at things rationally. I'd do anything to keep my son alive, but I don't know that all the things I can come up with should be legal just because of my emotions.<br /><br />And see? That's where you and I seem to disagree. I want logic, and principle, and *economics* to have a say in policy, not just "I want".Darrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15730642770935985796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-35998385333568916372017-05-15T18:32:36.355-07:002017-05-15T18:32:36.355-07:00Neulasta, which is given to chemo patients to up t...Neulasta, which is given to chemo patients to up their white blood cell count, costs about $10,000 a dose.<br />My wife has cost $70,000 in just neulasta so far. <br />I guess, Darren, like those who voted for Trump, belieieving he was going to give them even better health care, and jobs and clean air, and freedom to won a gun , and freedom to practice their religion, I'm willing to accept what the government can do to keep my wife alive. <br />Almost like taking a job teaching in government schools instead of private school.PhillipMarlowehttp://www.itsokaywithme.com/thelonggoodbye/images/gould_market_2_600.jpgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-63732755208023831142017-05-08T14:34:58.699-07:002017-05-08T14:34:58.699-07:00HI Pseudotsuga--I'm a Pinus strobus man myself...HI Pseudotsuga--I'm a Pinus strobus man myself.<br /><br />Anyway, yes it is $35,000 in Japan. Probably the reason is that our health insurance CEO's make twenty million a year and up. The highest Medicare salary that I have seen is $165,000. Quite a difference. that's why I had always advocated that anyone should be able to buy into Medicare. With reasonable restrictions of course. <br /><br />I know many folks from Ontario. They like their health care plan and think we are nuts. Two thirds of the hip replacements in Canada are for people over 65.<br /><br />Regards, <br /><br />Rchard<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-16451547492173807612017-05-08T13:42:59.127-07:002017-05-08T13:42:59.127-07:00According to the US DHS, we spend $10,345 per pers...According to the US DHS, we spend $10,345 per person on healthcare in the US. We have a population of about 330 million, but only 153 million are employed. Which means health care costs amount to about $22,300 per worker--that's all workers, including the working poor, including families taking care of kids and elderly, trying to pay a mortgage, and their kids' orthodontist, and save up for college...and paying off their own college debt.<br /><br />So, the fundamental question is: How do we pay for $22,300 per worker?Auntie Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05777983027361603449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-58866240500441524212017-05-07T14:59:16.601-07:002017-05-07T14:59:16.601-07:00Richard --
Those decisions are already made by the...Richard --<br />Those decisions are already made by the government in places like Canada and the UK, where the government decides that the hip replacement is too expensive for the 60 year old woman, and the cancer drug that will save the life of the child is too expensive for National Health to purchase, so they won't offer it. <br />You also might find it helpful to explain why that one drug is only (35 dollar? 35,000 dollars?) in Japan.Pseudotsugahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04113260814272433972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-79465937697948791572017-05-07T13:18:06.523-07:002017-05-07T13:18:06.523-07:00You are asking what a person's life is worth. ...You are asking what a person's life is worth. That is one slippery slope. Who do we let die? How about a type one diabetic child? Your grandfather two extra years of quality life? My wife's 94 year old WW II vet father?<br /><br />Those decisions are way above my pay grade. I hereby put you in charge. Sleep well.<br /><br />By the way, that $145,524 cost here is $35.000 in Japan.<br /><br />Richard<br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-44056188934175152272017-05-07T13:03:12.498-07:002017-05-07T13:03:12.498-07:00Assuming the middle number (25000) in your range f...Assuming the middle number (25000) in your range for the number of people with ALS, that is a gross cost of $3.64 billion; assuming the top number (30000) this is a gross cost of 4.36 billion. This is approximately 35%-42% of the cost of a Ford-class aircraft carrier (estimated $10.44 billion). The last budget (FY17) was $4.15 trillion, which makes this 0.09% of the federal budget for that year. I hate the idea of single-payer, but the cost comparison is actually a net positive in this case.<br /><br />Now as we aggregate the costs for _all_ of the different drug treatments and the gross costs for _all_ of the medical care we are dealing with, then the numbers get HUGE. At that point the bureaucracy of the federal government makes it impossible to manage. The transition to single-payer health care in the US would be a disaster.Joshua Sasmorhttp://people.setonhill.edunoreply@blogger.com