tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post115923307842787499..comments2024-03-13T21:26:03.011-07:00Comments on Right on the Left Coast: Views From a Conservative Teacher: ABC News Inadvertently Shows What's Wrong With Math EducationDarrenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15730642770935985796noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1159476661203595762006-09-28T13:51:00.000-07:002006-09-28T13:51:00.000-07:00Darren, I want you to be for number sense. In th...Darren, I want you to be for number sense. In the school system my daughters attend, number sense is a code phrase used by constructivist math teachers and is a talent that can't possibly be learned by students taught by traditional methods.<BR/><BR/>I don't think I'm making my point well, I'm feeling under the weather at the moment, but I'm 110% for true number sense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1159416701968367142006-09-27T21:11:00.000-07:002006-09-27T21:11:00.000-07:00Really? I'm all about number sense. I want stude...Really? I'm all about number sense. I want students to develop it--and the way to develop it is to work with lots of numbers with your head, not with a calculator.Darrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15730642770935985796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1159416291840717492006-09-27T21:04:00.000-07:002006-09-27T21:04:00.000-07:00Graphing calculators (TI-84?) are basically requir...Graphing calculators (TI-84?) are basically required in our local school system starting in Middle School (6th - 8th grades). It's total insanity.<BR/><BR/>I remember a factorial homework problem my daughter had that if you actually used REAL "number sense" could easily be reducted by hand to something like (8*7*6)/(3*2*1). However, if you did it using a calcuator, the numerator yielded scientific notation, which of course the students hadn't learned yet or at least didn't recognize the results on the calculator.<BR/><BR/>If a math educator uses a phrase like "number sense", beware.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1159345707012931322006-09-27T01:28:00.000-07:002006-09-27T01:28:00.000-07:00I use graphing calculators when I teach my year 8 ...I use graphing calculators when I teach my year 8 classes to graph linear equations. While <B>graphing by hand is what we teach and assess</B>, I do lend my students a graphing calculator to conduct investigations which would otherwise be too cumbersome. Usually, after 20 minutes of specific exercises and a class discussion, we arrive at conclusions regarding the effect of changing the gradient of the line. For instance, they discover that lines with the same gradient are parallel.<BR/>By the way, which grades are defined as "middle school". I teach in Australia, where students go from <I>primary</I> to <I>secondary</I> school. We refers to grades 5-9 as the "middle years".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1159325377193543192006-09-26T19:49:00.000-07:002006-09-26T19:49:00.000-07:00I used a graphic calculator in Algebra 2 to check ...I used a graphic calculator in Algebra 2 to check my graphs when the problems weren't in the back of the book. And to play Tetris.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1159313027042557022006-09-26T16:23:00.000-07:002006-09-26T16:23:00.000-07:00It takes more than a week to learn how to use a TI...It takes more than a week to learn how to use a TI83 or 89.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1159304080274554462006-09-26T13:54:00.000-07:002006-09-26T13:54:00.000-07:00Geez I had to DRAW MY GRAPHS BY HAND in my college...Geez I had to DRAW MY GRAPHS BY HAND in my college Functions class (eons ago)! Why do students need these at ALL in K-12? It takes all of a week or two to figure out how to use one later on, when you're doing some heavy applied math in another discipline.<BR/><BR/>So call me a Luddite.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1159293192964975152006-09-26T10:53:00.000-07:002006-09-26T10:53:00.000-07:00Remind me to talk to you about my brother's school...Remind me to talk to you about my brother's school. Becuse he is in "advanced math" (get your "oo"s and "ah"s out now), his teacher requires that he has a graphing calculator. He's taking algebra 1.<BR/><BR/>It's so ridiculous.Nick Lopezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01221949162719403911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1159287129130269602006-09-26T09:12:00.000-07:002006-09-26T09:12:00.000-07:00Way back in the Dark Ages when I was in high schoo...Way back in the Dark Ages when I was in high school, geometry had two purposes: preparation for trigonometry, and learning logic (proofs). Neither requires any kind of calculator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1159277942944123132006-09-26T06:39:00.000-07:002006-09-26T06:39:00.000-07:00Why on God's green earth would anyone need a graph...Why on God's green earth would anyone need a graphing calculator in a geometry class?Darrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15730642770935985796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1159277802540539002006-09-26T06:36:00.000-07:002006-09-26T06:36:00.000-07:00Well since I skipped pre algebra so i was in geome...Well since I skipped pre algebra so i was in geometry by 8th grade we had some days throughout the year that was soley devoted to graphing calculators and we even had a class set of Texas instrument graphing calculators but in any other math class graph calculators are definitely not neededBrook Stevenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09186175857217476807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1159238761632531932006-09-25T19:46:00.000-07:002006-09-25T19:46:00.000-07:00Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. The reason I think...Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. <BR/><BR/>The reason I think it was a *graphing* calculator was because the teacher was looking at a large display and said something like, "Your x and y aren't the same." Those are what led me to believe it was definitely a graphing calculator.Darrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15730642770935985796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1159238502303247772006-09-25T19:41:00.000-07:002006-09-25T19:41:00.000-07:00i'm almost certain that you can do square roots on...i'm almost certain that you can do square roots on scientific ones, too :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1159233957060156842006-09-25T18:25:00.000-07:002006-09-25T18:25:00.000-07:00LOLLOLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com