tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post113666004531459649..comments2024-03-13T21:26:03.011-07:00Comments on Right on the Left Coast: Views From a Conservative Teacher: Students *Must* Pass the High School Exit ExamDarrenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15730642770935985796noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-59766806107215187662008-01-09T18:09:00.000-08:002008-01-09T18:09:00.000-08:00Try this information from the CA Department of Edu...Try this information from the CA Department of Education:<BR/> www.cde.ca.gov/ta/tg/hs/documents/options.doc<BR/><BR/>*****<BR/>Pass the California High School Proficiency Exam (CHSPE), for students ages sixteen or over, to obtain a diploma equivalent.<BR/><BR/>California EC Section 48412 allows students who take and pass the CHSPE to receive from the State Board of Education a certificate of proficiency, which is the legal equivalent of a high school diploma. Information is available on the CDE Web site at http://www.cde.ca.gov/ta/tg/sp/.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Pass the General Educational Development (GED) test, a national program for adults ages eighteen and older, to obtain a diploma equivalent.<BR/><BR/>The GED is a national test for individuals over eighteen or who are within 60 days of their eighteenth birthday (regardless of school enrollment status). Individuals can take the GED to demonstrate knowledge equivalent to a high school diploma. Students age seventeen years and out of high school for a minimum of 60 days are also eligible to take the test. The test is offered on a fee basis at testing centers throughout the state. Information is available on the CDE Web site at http://www.cde.ca.gov/ta/tg/gd/gedfaq.asp. <BR/>*****Darrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15730642770935985796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-26181929929211370392008-01-09T16:09:00.000-08:002008-01-09T16:09:00.000-08:00I have heard that someone getting a GED must now a...I have heard that someone getting a GED must now also pass the CAHSEE. Has anyone one else heard this? Where can I go to find out for sure? thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1163183447860486032006-11-10T10:30:00.000-08:002006-11-10T10:30:00.000-08:00There are some people for whom English is their se...There are some people for whom English is their second language. These students are often bright and extremely intelligent. They pass the Math with their eyes closed. But the English presents difficulty because spelling and grammar are difficult for them. This test may prevent many of these people from graduating and moving on to higher education where they can thrive in Math or other areas while continuing to work on English language skills. This test is cheap! And that's the bottom line. It's inexpensive to put a piece of paper into a scan-tron and wait for results. It's more time consuming and costly to have things like portfolios where kids are forced to defend the work they have collected over a period of four years. But that's not a price were willing to pay.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1140059119768270262006-02-15T19:05:00.000-08:002006-02-15T19:05:00.000-08:00food for thought - a 7th grader was able to pass t...food for thought - a 7th grader was able to pass the test. Anyone worthy of a diploma should at the bare minimum be able to pass this test.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1137059939311638812006-01-12T01:58:00.000-08:002006-01-12T01:58:00.000-08:00I sure am glad we have the CHSEE. What better wa...I sure am glad we have the CHSEE. What better way to maintain the value of a high school diploma than by giving each student a whole bunch of tries to pass an exam that pegs its pasing score at somewhere around moderately competent 8th grader. But it gets better. . .let's create rules of administration of the test that cause nearly three-quarters of our students not to be in school for the better part of two days. I can't decide who is less intelligent: those who can't pass the CHSEE, or those who think that requiring passage actually connotes greater worth to the high schoool diploma.<BR/><BR/>My favorite complaint is that of parents whose kids get good grades, but can't pass the test: Possibly the only reason to administer the test is to find schools where that is actually possible so that we might shut them down.<BR/><BR/>DanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1136763606507283182006-01-08T15:40:00.000-08:002006-01-08T15:40:00.000-08:00Maybe High Schools need to teach some basics that ...Maybe High Schools need to teach some basics that SOME of their students will find useful.....<BR/>MATH: Juan's customer orders two burgers, fries and sodas. The burgers are $1.35 each, the fries are $1.25 each and the sodas are $1.55 each. How much money does the customer need to give Juan ? <BR/><BR/>SCIENCE: Always cook the fries at 475 degree temperature. That is when this red needle on this round thing points to the 4, 7 and 5. <BR/><BR/>Language Arts: Complete this form:<BR/>Name ? Address ? City ? Social Security Number ? .......<BR/><BR/> I just hope that the powers that control such things as requiring the H.S. Exit Exam finally stick to their guns and demand that it is a requirement, no if's and's or buts.Dan Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13397636504405471939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1136742334441731662006-01-08T09:45:00.000-08:002006-01-08T09:45:00.000-08:00We've linked this post over at The Education Wonks...We've <A HREF="http://educationwonk.blogspot.com/2006/01/those-ole-cahsee-blues.html" REL="nofollow">linked</A> this post over at The Education Wonks.EdWonkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07487951830278757474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1136740279077864292006-01-08T09:11:00.000-08:002006-01-08T09:11:00.000-08:00Elaine, thank you for the correction!I don't know ...Elaine, thank you for the correction!<BR/><BR/>I don't know much about the GED--would the student have to pay for it? Is it, like the SAT, run by a private company? If so, I can see why the state would opt not to use it. If not, your idea has merit.Darrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15730642770935985796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1136735707396532022006-01-08T07:55:00.000-08:002006-01-08T07:55:00.000-08:00Actually, students get *6* chances to take the CAH...Actually, students get *6* chances to take the CAHSEE... Fall and Spring of each year.<BR/><BR/>As for exit exam testing... why are we even using the CAHSEE? We already have a wonderful exit exam written - it's called the GED.<BR/><BR/>As a teacher, I personally think we ought to be using the GED as the exit exam - and if the student passes it prior to their senior year, then future HS attendance should be optional. (It would work similar to the current system. You go to school AND pass the GED, you get a diploma. You just pass the GED, you get your GED certificate.) <BR/><BR/>Of course, the GED is a harder exam. It covers more than the sheer basics of Math and English. I fail to see how this is a bad thing, though!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10348701.post-1136668359010916392006-01-07T13:12:00.000-08:002006-01-07T13:12:00.000-08:00Making a high school diploma meaningless does no o...Making a high school diploma meaningless does no one any favors.<BR/><BR/>Denying permission to participate in graduation activities is likely to be more effective as a motivator than a withholding a mere diploma.<BR/><BR/>How about offering different levels of diplomas? A blue seal means the student has a pulse at least several times a day. Silver seal means middle-school competency (the current CHSEE). Gold seal is for the real superstars - kids that know who Shakespeare was and what a cosine is.<BR/><BR/>This gives something for everyone, no student will have their delicate esteem blighted and employers will have an idea what they are getting when they hire.Old Mathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12495184085749596145noreply@blogger.com